{"id":6432,"date":"2023-03-11T22:44:01","date_gmt":"2023-03-12T05:44:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dresan.com\/blog\/?p=6432"},"modified":"2023-03-11T22:46:40","modified_gmt":"2023-03-12T05:46:40","slug":"forty-nine-minus-twenty-about-that-midjourney","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/2023\/03\/11\/forty-nine-minus-twenty-about-that-midjourney\/","title":{"rendered":"[forty-nine] minus twenty: about that midjourney"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_1fcba90a-9ac0-46aa-bc8c-6fe4d713b95c-600x600.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6433\" width=\"718\" height=\"718\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_1fcba90a-9ac0-46aa-bc8c-6fe4d713b95c-600x600.png 600w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_1fcba90a-9ac0-46aa-bc8c-6fe4d713b95c-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_1fcba90a-9ac0-46aa-bc8c-6fe4d713b95c-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_1fcba90a-9ac0-46aa-bc8c-6fe4d713b95c-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_1fcba90a-9ac0-46aa-bc8c-6fe4d713b95c-1536x1536.png 1536w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_1fcba90a-9ac0-46aa-bc8c-6fe4d713b95c-640x640.png 640w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_1fcba90a-9ac0-46aa-bc8c-6fe4d713b95c.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 718px) 100vw, 718px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>SO, one of my favorite characters is Porsche, a centauress warrior from the thirty-first century who populated many of my first tranche of as-yet-unpublished science fiction stories. (I think she only appears in one published story, &#8220;Stranded&#8221; in the anthology of the same name, and even that, just as a cameo). And while I have worked a lot to improve my art, I wondered what Midjourney could do. And I got the above result from the following prompt:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>a centauress with long, rich curly purple hair, very beautiful, with half-asian, half-english appearance, and pointed ears, wearing an armored space costume like a combination of ghost in the shell and star trek, and bearing a double-bladed scythe with black glowing blades<\/p>\n<cite>&#8211; the Centaur<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Wow. This is really spot on. Her hair is right, her face is right, her skin tone is right, her armor is right &#8230; heck, even her slightly haunted look is right, and to go beyond even that, one of the variants looks like a slightly older, more grizzled variant, which completely checks out with her storyline:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_c6e9c92d-9f85-4907-a4dc-2600075b9870-600x600.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6434\" width=\"717\" height=\"717\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_c6e9c92d-9f85-4907-a4dc-2600075b9870-600x600.png 600w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_c6e9c92d-9f85-4907-a4dc-2600075b9870-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_c6e9c92d-9f85-4907-a4dc-2600075b9870-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_c6e9c92d-9f85-4907-a4dc-2600075b9870-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_c6e9c92d-9f85-4907-a4dc-2600075b9870-640x640.png 640w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_c6e9c92d-9f85-4907-a4dc-2600075b9870.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 717px) 100vw, 717px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Kudos to you, Midjourney, except &#8230; she&#8217;s not a centauress. She&#8217;s just a person, a fetching one, I admit, but not a half-woman, half-horse creature with the pointed ears and black twin-bladed scythe of the prompt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, shoot. What if we look at some of the other variants?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_a5357b6b-d404-4066-b012-92b0f04b8487-600x600.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6435\" width=\"717\" height=\"717\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_a5357b6b-d404-4066-b012-92b0f04b8487-600x600.png 600w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_a5357b6b-d404-4066-b012-92b0f04b8487-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_a5357b6b-d404-4066-b012-92b0f04b8487-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_a5357b6b-d404-4066-b012-92b0f04b8487-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_a5357b6b-d404-4066-b012-92b0f04b8487-1536x1536.png 1536w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_a5357b6b-d404-4066-b012-92b0f04b8487-640x640.png 640w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_a5357b6b-d404-4066-b012-92b0f04b8487.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 717px) 100vw, 717px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This one is creepily good in a sense &#8230; it&#8217;s got her forehead dot (she&#8217;s a First Contact Engineer, and wears a pheromone bead she used to communicate with a scent-based alien hive species) and even hints of her mechanical arm and possibly ear. But this is just coincidence. Look at this other variant:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_70b93613-b0d7-40d7-9ff3-3c36e5c735fd-600x600.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6436\" width=\"714\" height=\"714\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_70b93613-b0d7-40d7-9ff3-3c36e5c735fd-600x600.png 600w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_70b93613-b0d7-40d7-9ff3-3c36e5c735fd-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_70b93613-b0d7-40d7-9ff3-3c36e5c735fd-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_70b93613-b0d7-40d7-9ff3-3c36e5c735fd-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_70b93613-b0d7-40d7-9ff3-3c36e5c735fd-640x640.png 640w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_with_long_rich_curly_purple_hair_very_bea_70b93613-b0d7-40d7-9ff3-3c36e5c735fd.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 714px) 100vw, 714px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>What appears is just chance. Here, her ears are rounded, the dot&#8217;s gone, and the weapon looks even less on point. A lot of what looked right to me is just random features onto which I was projecting, like cloudbusting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, double shoot. What if we refine the prompt? What do we get?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>a centauress (a creature with the upper body of a woman and a lower body of a horse) with long, rich curly purple hair, very beautiful, with half-asian, half-english appearance, and pointed ears, wearing an armored space costume like a combination of ghost in the shell and star trek, and wielding a scythe with black glowing blades <\/p>\n<cite>&#8211; the Centaur<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_a_creature_with_the_upper_body_of_a_woman_0c08b28d-c03b-44b9-aba4-4c99e9f5e04a-600x600.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6437\" width=\"716\" height=\"716\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_a_creature_with_the_upper_body_of_a_woman_0c08b28d-c03b-44b9-aba4-4c99e9f5e04a-600x600.png 600w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_a_creature_with_the_upper_body_of_a_woman_0c08b28d-c03b-44b9-aba4-4c99e9f5e04a-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_a_creature_with_the_upper_body_of_a_woman_0c08b28d-c03b-44b9-aba4-4c99e9f5e04a-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_a_creature_with_the_upper_body_of_a_woman_0c08b28d-c03b-44b9-aba4-4c99e9f5e04a-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_a_creature_with_the_upper_body_of_a_woman_0c08b28d-c03b-44b9-aba4-4c99e9f5e04a-640x640.png 640w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_a_centauress_a_creature_with_the_upper_body_of_a_woman_0c08b28d-c03b-44b9-aba4-4c99e9f5e04a.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 716px) 100vw, 716px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Yerk. That&#8217;s &#8230; just jumbled nonsense. Tweaks to the prompt to make it simpler just produced women on horses. Midjourney does not apparently understand the concept &#8216;centaur&#8217; in any meaningful sense. I tried just the prompt &#8220;centaur&#8221;, and &#8230; um &#8230; yeah &#8230; no, I&#8217;m not going to show you those. They&#8217;re just a guy with a horse, or sort of on a horse, or &#8230; sort of &#8230; in a horse? A centaur as envisioned by The Thing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Okay, one last try. What if I give it one of my pieces of art, and then ask it to render it anime style? Let&#8217;s hold that piece of imagery till the last, but the prompt is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>an anime style centauress with purple hair and a double-bladed scythe jumping in front of a waterfall<\/p>\n<cite>&#8211;the Centaur<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_an_anime_style_centauress_with_purple_hair_and_a_doubl_09fa6c91-6687-4218-89c3-fd2bfd60e964-600x600.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6438\" width=\"721\" height=\"721\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_an_anime_style_centauress_with_purple_hair_and_a_doubl_09fa6c91-6687-4218-89c3-fd2bfd60e964-600x600.png 600w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_an_anime_style_centauress_with_purple_hair_and_a_doubl_09fa6c91-6687-4218-89c3-fd2bfd60e964-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_an_anime_style_centauress_with_purple_hair_and_a_doubl_09fa6c91-6687-4218-89c3-fd2bfd60e964-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_an_anime_style_centauress_with_purple_hair_and_a_doubl_09fa6c91-6687-4218-89c3-fd2bfd60e964-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_an_anime_style_centauress_with_purple_hair_and_a_doubl_09fa6c91-6687-4218-89c3-fd2bfd60e964-640x640.png 640w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_an_anime_style_centauress_with_purple_hair_and_a_doubl_09fa6c91-6687-4218-89c3-fd2bfd60e964.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 721px) 100vw, 721px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Oh, lordy. And I&#8217;m not going to show you the one it tried to generate from the prompt &#8220;anime style&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oh wait, I am!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_anime_style_83fb3924-b13f-4fab-b9d4-9b1209e0b053-600x600.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6439\" width=\"715\" height=\"715\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_anime_style_83fb3924-b13f-4fab-b9d4-9b1209e0b053-600x600.png 600w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_anime_style_83fb3924-b13f-4fab-b9d4-9b1209e0b053-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_anime_style_83fb3924-b13f-4fab-b9d4-9b1209e0b053-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_anime_style_83fb3924-b13f-4fab-b9d4-9b1209e0b053-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_anime_style_83fb3924-b13f-4fab-b9d4-9b1209e0b053-640x640.png 640w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/xenotaur_anime_style_83fb3924-b13f-4fab-b9d4-9b1209e0b053.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 715px) 100vw, 715px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Wow. Evocative &#8211; the top left reminds me of Cinnamon Frost &#8211; but it has little to do with the image I put in, and the attempt in the top right especially is nonsensical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am inspired by Midjourney. It&#8217;s definitely a better renderer than me, and has good ideas about composition which I have already used in my artwork. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But I stick by my comment that it is an amateur which has taught itself to render very well, and cannot take meaningful art direction. As limited as I am, I&#8217;ll stick with my own drawing, thank you!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Like this one, the image I gave to Midjourney above. It&#8217;s not perfect, it&#8217;s not well rendered &#8230; but it is mine:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/day-011-v2-571x800.png\" alt=\"Porsche and the Scythe at the Waterfall, Colored\" class=\"wp-image-4684\" width=\"715\" height=\"1002\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/day-011-v2-571x800.png 571w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/day-011-v2-286x400.png 286w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/day-011-v2-768x1075.png 768w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/day-011-v2-1097x1536.png 1097w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/day-011-v2-1463x2048.png 1463w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/day-011-v2-640x896.png 640w, https:\/\/dresan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/01\/day-011-v2.png 1500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 715px) 100vw, 715px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>And she has four legs, a scythe, and pointy ears, dag nabit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>-the Centaur<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SO, one of my favorite characters is Porsche, a centauress warrior from the thirty-first century who populated many of my first tranche of as-yet-unpublished science fiction stories. 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